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Has anyone in this group used a prenup and was it helpful? Anyone used Nolo to draft it?
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ClaraL
2010-07-11 21:33:14 UTC
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Hello,

Had anyone in this group had setup and used a prenup and was it any
helpful? I'm thinking of creating a prenup for my second marriage to
avoid costly mistakes from my first one, and I am looking into Nolo
Press to produce a first draft. Has anyone do that before and was that
helpful or did the lawyers just tossed the prep work away?

If you know any better group to post this question, please feel free
to suggest it,

Thank you in advance

Clara
SamIAm
2010-07-12 14:30:52 UTC
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Rather than get married, just find a woman you hate and buy her a house.
Saves a lot of time.
Post by ClaraL
Hello,
Had anyone in this group had setup and used a prenup and was it any
helpful? I'm thinking of creating a prenup for my second marriage to
avoid costly mistakes from my first one, and I am looking into Nolo
Press to produce a first draft. Has anyone do that before and was that
helpful or did the lawyers just tossed the prep work away?
If you know any better group to post this question, please feel free
to suggest it,
Thank you in advance
Clara
Doug Laidlaw
2010-07-22 08:35:41 UTC
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That was Andy Stewart's formula. Something has gone really wrong when it
has got to that.

A woman buying a counselling book on Amazon.com wanted to let men know that
she at least cared about men. But she knew what bad press she had to
overcome.

Some psychologists are seeking to "liberate" women. Men might think that
women don't need liberating. But you have treated them as toys or bed-
warmers for so long, that you have only yourselves to blame for their
resentment. Threat them as worthy partners and they will respond. From
"Camelot:"

"The way to handle a woman is to love her."

And loving her - loving anybody - means treating them as valuable for
themselves, rather than simply useful to you.

Doug L.
Post by SamIAm
Rather than get married, just find a woman you hate and buy her a house.
Saves a lot of time.
Post by ClaraL
Hello,
Had anyone in this group had setup and used a prenup and was it any
helpful? I'm thinking of creating a prenup for my second marriage to
avoid costly mistakes from my first one, and I am looking into Nolo
Press to produce a first draft. Has anyone do that before and was that
helpful or did the lawyers just tossed the prep work away?
If you know any better group to post this question, please feel free
to suggest it,
Thank you in advance
Clara
LarryG
2010-07-14 18:05:12 UTC
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Post by ClaraL
Hello,
Had anyone in this group had setup and used a prenup and was it any
helpful? I'm thinking of creating a prenup for my second marriage to
avoid costly mistakes from my first one, and I am looking into Nolo
Press to produce a first draft. Has anyone do that before and was that
helpful or did the lawyers just tossed the prep work away?
If you know any better group to post this question, please feel free
to suggest it,
Thank you in advance
Clara
Personally, I think you should get divorced before you get married.
A Pre-Nup does a number of important things:

1. It lets each prospective mate see exactly how "generous" and
reasonable the other is likely to be, while they are even on good
terms with one another.

2. Each party knows exactly what they stand to gain or lose
should they consider misconduct or divorce.

3. It should allow seperation without the animosity and
quarrelling about who gets what, which generally degenerates
into petty spitefulness.

Just be sure that both sides have equal say in the pre-nup
terms.

Good luck,
Larry G.
phelbooth
2010-07-16 14:07:15 UTC
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Post by LarryG
Post by ClaraL
Hello,
Had anyone in this group had setup and used a prenup and was it any
helpful? I'm thinking of creating a prenup for my second marriage to
avoid costly mistakes from my first one, and I am looking into Nolo
Press to produce a first draft. Has anyone do that before and was that
helpful or did the lawyers just tossed the prep work away?
If you know any better group to post this question, please feel free
to suggest it,
Thank you in advance
Clara
Personally, I think you should get divorced before you get married.
1. It lets each prospective mate see exactly how "generous" and
reasonable the other is likely to be, while they are even on good
terms with one another.
2. Each party knows exactly what they stand to gain or lose
should they consider misconduct or divorce.
3. It should allow seperation without the animosity and
quarrelling about who gets what, which generally degenerates
into petty spitefulness.
Just be sure that both sides have equal say in the pre-nup
terms.
Good luck,
Larry G.
I had a pre-nup and while ideally it was established to protect each
of our separate assets (we both have adult children) at death, we did
end up divorcing.

Larry's #3 above would be the ideal case--my spouse contested the pre-
nup with great vigor (right down to asking to be reimbursed for
planting arbor vitae in the yard--I owned the house prior to
marriage)--thereby taking what could have been an inexpensive and
quick divorce into months of stupidity and legal expense.

Anyway, the pre-nup did hold up--when they are correctly crafted they
almost always do--I recommend using a good estate lawyer rather than
doing it on your own. Won't cost more than $500 and it will hold up in
court--unless either of you lie when drafting the prenup. Look up
something called "The Button Case" or "Button Test" or something like
that--it's a legal precedent that shows the three-prong test that
validates the effectiveness of the prenup.

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